How to Short Bitcoin Using Options | Interview with Krown’s Crypto Cave


Eric, you consider yourself first and foremost
an option trader. Can you tell us a little bit what it means? Yeah, absolutely. So where I come from is actually as a market
maker in equity options user term of the floor of New York Stock Change, Arca, and that’s
kind of how I got my start. So I’m most familiar with options, and option
trading is different from, well, first we should define them all, right. The first one is what everyone knows, just
regular spot trading. That’s when you go on to insert random exchange
here, like Coinbase, perhaps. And if you’re just buying and selling there,
that’s what we call spot trading. Then you have futures which are derivative
products, which essentially are kind of like spot,
but in agreement at a later date with an expiration for a price right now, usually
trading at some sort of premium or just count. And then options is where we take that and
pervert it just one more step further and add on. Not only an expiration date, but we also add
on different strike prices at which these derivative products, you know, go into the
money, become actually active. Now, the problem or what gets a little bit
confusing about options is that you have both calls and puts, you could both be a buyer
or seller of calls and puts. So calls essentially if you’re a buyer, you’re
looking for price to go up. If you’re buying puts you’re doing the opposite,
you’re looking for price go down. But like I said, you can sell them both as
well. So, there’s also a different arbitrage plays
with that. And for myself, I would always be looking
to lock in some arbitrage. So let’s say someone comes in, wants to buy
a call for me, I’ll go out and if my models could do, I’ll do it. And then I’ll pull on the other side by perhaps
selling a put and then selling some stock underline. And then you can kind of find these little
arbitrage plays like that. So when I say that I’m an options trader first,
I’m typically thinking in that sort of mode I want to be locking in all sorts of sides
and making sure that I’m keeping relatively delta neutral. So I’m never really looking for like the big
home run play, even though on my YouTube channel I will show a few positions like that here
and there, but those are very few and far between, because they really just don’t happen
all that often. More often than not, things are rangy and
caught in like a, you know, in a nice little zone, kind of like we are right now. And that’s the beauty of options, because
I can construct a zone of profit essentially, where as long as you stay within that zone,
I can make money off that. And if we go outside of that zone and I start
to lose money, but because options are so magical in a way, you know, there are plenty
of ways to cover yourself if that happens. You mentioned in one of your
latest videos. You said that this is not an appropriate time
to go bearish. This by the fact that during the weekend we
experienced some significant losses. But you said that even in case you want to
short on bitcoin, you better do it with options. So why do you think options are the best to
go short on Bitcoin in the current situation? The reason why I’d rather do with options
is because anytime I’m trading against the overall macro trend, I don’t want to put that
position on spot. So I really don’t want to be short spot in
an overall upward market just like last year, I didn’t want to be long spot while we were
in a downwards market. So if I am going to have any sort of counter
trend exposure, I’d rather do with options because one, it’s easier to cover. I can specify that strike and then I can then
cover in advance, it’s all well out, well played in accordance to the levels that we
were looking at running over there. So, say like the $10,000 shortage areas where
I start to get bearish once again, if we actually break down, I can say, OK, well, then I’ll
sell some, if I want to have some downside exposure, we break that I’ll sell some $10,500
calls or something like that. Or maybe I’ll pick the next resistance like
$11,000 or $11,500 is what I have right now of which we were just looking, so $11,200
is kind of where I see the short term in the medium term change. So that’s why short of the $11,500 strike
calls, because I know that if we get back above 11 too just cover those still make money,
then still take profit and I can actually keep a spot underlying position as well long
without ever going short. So that’s the beauty of it is I don’t actually
have to risk having that counter trend position, which for me typically doesn’t work out too
well. Of course, everyone’s got their own secret
sauce. You know, I’m not saying anything too crazy
here, but that’s just my style, what’s worked best for me. I’ve had very little success trading against
the overall macro trend. Ok. And you also said that the one we experience
on the weekend can be considered like bearish trap, a bear trap. What do you mean by bear trap? Yes, so bear traps. Essentially, we had some quote unquote bearish
views come out right in the United States. I think Trump put out a tweet saying he basically
doesn’t like Bitcoin. It seemed like more of a political thing to
me between him and Facebook, because he and Zuckerberg don’t like each other. So, you know, those sorts of news articles
in the, you know, in the market are classic. When I was I was in traditional markets, you
know, anytime you have a news article like that, it’s usually a counter trade type idea. People, retailers will kind of treat it as
real. They’ll sell in. And then what can happen and what I think
is probably likely happening right now, as long as we don’t take out that next level
that we spoke about, tend to I would say that, you know, that sort of news, that sort of
price activity is promoted by the people who actually do move the markets. And what they know is that, hey, if we create
a little bit of emotion, if we get people a little bit, you know, on edge and they start
reading the news and they say, oh, Trump doesn’t like Bitcoin, he’s going to ban Bitcoin, whatever
that means, you know, it means nothing. And so I better sell now. Well, they can drive it down, make you think
that that’s actually going to happen and then, you know, flip it around. And now you’ve got a lot of people chasing
who are very emotional and too, can add fuel on to like an already burning fire if they
do want to throw on some upward momentum.

22 thoughts on “How to Short Bitcoin Using Options | Interview with Krown’s Crypto Cave”

  1. I understood exactly 0% of this guy’s options. I’m just hodling, which seems to be a great option to me

  2. No idea what he said and I’ve been trading for awhile. Feels like he’s using a bunch of key terms. Not much information for the average trader or finance person.

  3. He is the most slang languagetrader who doesnt know how to use gentleman language
    All the time fkkng fkkng fkkng
    If u dont belive go and check his all videos

  4. Imo Krown is one of the best crypto trader on youtube. He always show his trade positions(proof of trade) in his every day live streaming. everyday you will learn something new from him in doing technical analysis and also a funny man you will not get bored watching his videos. Hehehe zuckerburger, mrs litecoin, ripple my nipples, dildos(instead of candlesticks), mr buterol(ethereum) and many other funny terms in his channel. Haha 😆😂🤣

  5. YES!? My fucken man… PERSISTENCE!! I kept bugging these dudes to get you on here..

    Now they will ONLY WANT KROWNS TA EVER

  6. Ok so 99% of Coin Telegraph users are lost on OPTIONS…

    Can we get KROWN ON HERE FOR HIS -SPOT/FUTURES CHARTS ANALYSIS

  7. Just check out Erik Crowns actual YouTube channel for a video wth technical analysis & be ready to smash the unsubscribe on all your previous “CRYPTOCURRENCY EXPERTS” finger click / Table bang

    Cos 👑 is the real DON DON.. also

    It’s strange but the more you know and understand options you realise Just how tricky and difficult it is to describe or define it in just 1 paragraph to a spot trader.

  8. Pfff this guy was so convinced Bitcoin was going to go to 1k, be aware people of these so called experts…

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