AG Barr calls on Facebook to limit message-encryption plans


DAVID: FOX BUSINESS ALERT SETTING UP A BIG FIGHT OVER NATIONAL SECURITY VERSUS PRIVACY , ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR IS NOW REPORTEDLY ASKING FACEBOOK TO DELAY PLANS TO EN CRYPT FACEBOOK MESSAGES. JACKIE DEANGELES HAS THE LATEST. REPORTER: GOOD EVENING TO YOU DAVID THAT’S RIGHT A NEW REQUEST FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO FACEBOOK SAYING HOLDUP ON PLANS, FOR END-TO-END ENCRYPTION IN MESSAGING. NOW BARR SITES PUBLIC SAFETY AS A CONCERN ACCORDING TO THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. REMEMBER ZUCKERBERG OUTLINED NEW PLANS TO PROTECT USER PRIVACY, EARLIER THIS YEAR. THIS WAS AFTER THE BACKLASH OVER DATA BREACHES AND FACEBOOK’S ROLE IN THE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICAL SCANDAL SO WOULD IT SEEM UNREASONABLE FOR FACEBOOK TO ADD THE END-TO-END ENCRYPTION AND IT DOES MAKE THE MESSAGES FOR PROTECTED BUT IS THERE A POINT WHERE THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM? POTENTIALLY YES IT’S A BATTLE OVER SECURITY, THAT’S BARR’S ARGUMENT VERSUS PRIVACY. THAT’S FACEBOOK’S ARGUMENT AND THINK BACK TO THE SHOOTING IN IN SAN BERNARDINO. THE APPLE IPHONE, THE GOVERNMENT NEEDED TO GET INTO THAT PHONE AND IT COULDN’T AND APPLE WOULDN’T HELP AND EVENTUALLY A THIRD PARTY DID OPEN THE PHONE BUT SHOULD IT BE THAT HARD WHEN PUBLIC SAFETY IS INVOLVED? IN THE CASE OF FACEBOOK, BARR MADE THE REQUEST IN AN OPEN LETTER ALSO SIGNED BY A BRITISH AND AUSTRALIAN COUNTERPARTS, THE JOURNAL REPORTS THAT LETTER WILL BE PUBLISHED TOMORROW AND IN THIS LETTER, BARR ASKS FACEBOOK TO HOLD OFF ON ENCRYPTION UNTIL IT CAN FIND A WAY TO GIVE GOVERNMENT ACCESS TO THE MESSAGING SERVICES FOR THOSE INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES. “WE ARE WRITING TO REQUEST THAT FACEBOOK DOES NOT PROCEED WITH THIS PLAN TO IMPLEMENT END-TO-END ENCRYPTION ACROSS ITS MESSAGING SERVICES, WITHOUT ENSURING THAT THERE IS NO REDUCTION TO USER SAFETY AND WITHOUT INCLUDING A MEANS FOR LAWFUL ACCESS TO THE CONTENT OF COMMUNICATION TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS ECERTAINLY DAVID, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT IS HERE AND IT ALSO OPENS PANDORA’S BOX IS THIS JUST ABOUT FACEBOOK OR WILL GOVERNMENT WANT TO ACCESS INFORMATION FROM OTHER COMPANIES AS WELL? BACK TO YOU. DAVID: SECURITY VERSUS LIBERTY IT’S QUITE CLEAR, JACKIE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JONATHAN, WITH ALL OF YOUR LIBERTARIAN BACKGROUND I CAN’T IMAGINE YOU BEING FOR BARR ON THIS ONE.>> DAVID, FACEBOOK IT’S LIKE THEY ARE DAMNED IF THEY DO AND DAMNED IF THEY DON’T. BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT SAID YOU’RE NOT PROTECTING PEOPLE’S PRIVACY. THEN FACEBOOK SAYS OKAY WE’LL HAVE ENCRYPTED MESSAGES AND THE GOVERNMENT SAYS OH, NO, NO, YOU CAN’T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF PRIVACY THIS IS ANOTHER WAY FOR GOVERNMENT TO GET INVOLVED IN A PRIVATE BUSINESS IN A COMPANY OFFERING A SERVICE THAT PEOPLE WANT WHICH IS PRIVATE MESSAGING, HANDS OFF THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, WHETHER IT BE FACEBOOK ‘S CRYPTOCURRENCY WHICH GOVERNMENT HAS ALREADY SAID THEY WANT TO PUT THE KABOSH ON TO THE ENCRYPTED MESSAGES, THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO ROLE IN BILL BARR AND THE REST OF THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BUTT THE HECK OUT.>> JONATHAN HOW DID WE KNOW YOU’D COME TO THAT CONCLUSION. I DISAGREE WITH YOU 100%. I THINK WHEN PUBLIC SECURITY IS AT RISK YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE MESSAGES AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME IN OUR COUNTRY’S HISTORY WHERE PHONE TAPPING WASN’T ALLOWED, PEOPLE WEREN’T ALLOWED TO LOOK AT –>> WITH A WARRANT THOUGH, LIZ.>> OF COURSE. JONATHAN, PRESUMABLY YOU’D HAVE TO HAVE A WARRANT HERE. IT ISN’T JUST LIKE THEY’D BE GOING THROUGH EVERYONE’S PHONES WILLY-NILLY BUT THIS IS A CASE WHERE IF THERE’S A KIDNAPPER OR A TERRORIST WITH A BOMB AND THEY KNOW THEY ARE COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THEIR GROUP VIA A MESSAGE APP THAT YOU CANNOT PENETRATE THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT. THAT’S THE END OF THE STORY AND A PRETTY REASONABLE REQUEST.>> LIZ TO YOUR POINT IF YOU HAVE A WARRANT, THEY WOULD BE FOOT I’LL BECAUSE IT’S ALREADY ENCRYPTED AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT PUTTING A BACK DOOR SO THEY DON’T PUT A BACK DOOR THAT IT’S ENCRYPTED. SO TO JONATHAN’S POINT I THINK THAT YOU’RE GOING AFTER A BUSINESS, YOU’RE TRYING TO GET THEIR INFORMATION, PEOPLE WANT PRIVACY THAT’S SOMETHING THAT WE’RE GOING TO VALUE IN THE FUTURE AND IF ANYTHING YOU CAN START USING TELEGRAM BECAUSE THAT EN CRYPTS ALL OF THEIR MESSAGES BUT TO YOUR POINT WHAT THEY RAISE IS THE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY SO JONATHAN WHEN YOU HAVE A WORLD THAT IS INCREASINGLY INVOLVED IN A SOCIAL MEDIA EVERYTHING ONLINE IS JUST IN OUR DAILY LIVES, AND CHILD PORNOGRAPHY TRAFFICKING GOING ON EASE FACEBOOK PLATFORM, DO YOU NOT WANT TO COMBAT THAT?>> YEAH, CERTAINLY CHRISTINA. YOU’RE SO GREAT WITH THE RED HERRING, CHILD PORNOGRAPHY IS ILLEGAL AND IT’S TERRIBLE AND SHOULD BE PROSECUTED BUT THAT SHOULDN’T BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO VIOLATE THE RIGHTS. TO HAVE A PRIVATE ENCRYPTED E-MAIL IF THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT TO USE. DAVID: BUT THE REAL QUESTION JONATHAN IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE A BACK DOOR IN SOME OF THESE ENCRYPTIONS, FOR THE POLICE, FOR THE CIA, WHOEVER CONSIDERS IT TO BE A NATIONAL OR LOCAL EMERGENCY DON’T YOU THINK IF THERE IS A WARRANT AND A LEGITIMATE REASON THERE SHOULD BE A BACK DOOR FOR AUTHORITIES.>> DAVID THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS HASN’T EVEN BEEN LAUNCHED YET. DAVID: YOU’RE AVOIDING THE QUESTION WHICH IS NOT USUAL FOR YOU. IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS HAMMERED DOWN, SHOULD THERE BE A BACK DOOR FOR AUTHORITIES TO GET IN IF THEY NEED TO?>> I THINK THAT IT IS UP TO THE JUDGE TO ISSUE THE WARRANTS AND I DON’T THINK IT’S FACEBOOK’ RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE IT THAT’S MY OPINION.>> BUT SUPPOSE THAT THERE IS A WARRANT AND IT CAN’T BE EXECUTED BECAUSE OF THIS ENCRYPTION, THAT KIND OF RENDERS THE WARRANT MOOT . THAT’S REALLY THE WHOLE POINT. A WARRANT WOULD ONLY BE ISSUED IF THERE WAS REALLY A SECURITY ISSUE OF SUBSTANTIAL IMPORTANCE AND BY THE WAY I THINK THAT IT’S PRETTY CRAZY THAT FACEBOOK IS SO INTENT ON PRIVACY. DAVID: QUICK, QUICK.

100 thoughts on “AG Barr calls on Facebook to limit message-encryption plans”

  1. Facebook is censoring Trump supporters and policial post too. Suckerberg is a hypocrite – and lied before congress

  2. 😂😂😂😂That’s funny don’t put new fire wall up yet because we need to figure out how to hack in later get secrets means we can use in our vantage taking away your freedom liberty over security what Benjamin Franklin said about security liberty is more important than security

  3. Jonathon is probably one of the most annoying people on FoxBusiness. He looks like a Progressives with his snide comments and immature reactions.

  4. Y’all are so clueless… All of y’all! You talk about warrants but the fact of the matter is that if you give government an inch they take a mile. You know it’s a fact because look at the red flag laws now sweeping the nation. Warrants weren’t good enough for government to take action when so-called public safety is a concern. Listen, the public’s safety is always a concern, because life itself is dangerous. Anyone can make an argument that public safety is a concern & skirt the law. And now we have new laws that even skirt the old laws. Why? Because robbing people of their rights, Liberty & privacy is a favorite pastime of ALL governments. That’s a simple historic fact. And why anyone has the gall to think otherwise let alone claim otherwise is simply asinine & everyone knows this. It’s just entertaining & persuasive to make those red herring claims.

  5. And again, there is a very real danger that an announced need for more security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of censorship and concealment -John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

  6. I want to hear from all of you when it turns out that you can't stop people selling kids because Facebook like Apple won't agree to work with the government

  7. Facebook doesn't want the government to invade our privacy: Facebook wants exclusive "rights" to invade our privacy. We all know both the government and the corporations are illegally cyberstalking all of us at all times and what difference does it make if it's Mark Zuckerberg or the Deep State creeping on us? I'm sure both have nefarious intentions.

  8. FB is C_A. Can't believe people still spill all on FB and don't get that DARPA is forever in their life. Communism isn't what we want ….. END FB NOW.

  9. Encrypted!!!. The CIA, FBI, DOD and the rest of them laugh at the notion that encryption is a hinderence to their spying. This is all a joke.

  10. There is no such thing as “encryption with a back door” if there is a back door it’s only a matter of when not if hackers figure out how to use it making encryption useless. These talking heads have no idea how technology work and are just making it up as they go

  11. The circus guy with the big ears is an absolute goof! He doesn't understand there needs to be a backdoor so government can also be held accountable.

  12. FB and Zuck don't care A FLIP about user privacy! [besides the XXX security agencies have taps into the lines BEFORE the messages are encrypted]

  13. This here is kinda a slippery slope. Yes on one hand and no on the other. Just don't know but…what I do know is I don't trust the government like CIA, FBI and some officers now, Facebook to me it's worse I have no trust with our privacy. If anything which ever way Barr or Facebook they better get it right look at it now. Geez!

  14. Read between the lines, they are setting the stage. CEO's and wall street should be concerned of what's coming. Americans and the world are going to get back thier planet, the scum globalist time is up.

  15. The backdoor is a warrant. Encryption is a feature of nature. If you build a "backdoor," it's no longer encrypted. Period.

  16. Barr wants to spy on Facebook messages what happened to the right being the party of smaller government, the right to privacy. Mr.Barr the deep state will use this to spy on Trump shut it down now🤕😂😂

  17. The NSA has a backdoor into nearly everything, so I'm not sure why the FBI is pretending they can't access encrypted messages.

  18. If you give up liberty for security? You will end up with no liberty or security. Nor will you deserve liberty or security.

  19. Fox idiots debate. Bad guys will encrypt their data. Facebook encryption will only protect the innocent. These people are idiots, as are the DOJ, as are those Muslims that used the iPhones last year. When we have sophisticated terrorists, the DOJ's back door will only be useful for spying on American citizens. America needs to wake up to the coming surveillance state. Let's not turn into another Communist China. Let's not let the morons at Fox News do the thinking for us.

  20. Yes is bias of free speech. Twitter was very bad today. They are for attacks against the president but dont allow anyone other then the Left/Dems corrupt senators to say anything!! The public their banning today. The viewers

  21. Really but obama and clinton has backdoor spyin still. That is a national energency snd breach of global security

  22. well either way this goes I don't trust the government. Congress is disgusting power tripping right now over our president and Facebook already was given way too much power because of the democratic psychos that's why we're in this mess now

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  25. OH MARK ZUCKERBERG ELON MUSK BILL GATES EPSTEIN!!!!!!
    ALSO LOOK INTO HIS BLOODLINE. SEE WHO HE IS RELATED TO….HAHAHAHAHHAHHA CIA PUPPET?

    NEVER TRUST …..

  26. the problem with encryption isn't so much about gaining access to our messages, etc. It's going to allow terrorists to plot without the fear of getting caught or evidence gained against them.
    There needs to be a LAWFUL backdoor, so terrorist messages can be read.

  27. I was watching this just fine until 2:01 and the tech meth-head on the top left bobbles up and I"m like oh gawd it's that guy again . Would someone please get that adderall addict off TV please?

  28. Mr Barr please get Nadler Schiff Pelosi Comey and gang arrested instead of fighting an endless battle with fb.. if you dont get these, they will keep you and the Trump administration busy with more new false allegations. It will be a losing battle if u dont arrest them now. Else it will send a signal that it is alright to spy on the President and pass rumours to impeach the President. If Dems dont play by the rules do not be too nice to them when you have the authority of the law.

  29. U.S. Government tells Huawei it is not lawful for you to install a backdoor to spy on users…
    But U.S. Government insists that it must have backdoor access to spy on Facebook users..🤔🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  30. Why!! Did not at the congressional dog and pony show hearings congress brow beat and berate him on privacy. Well!!! Now he is going to make sure we have our conversations encrypted. What’s the problem with that? Oh! Government cannot not easily snoop anymore. What does that have to do with harming the children.

  31. Just use the Post Office. You need a warrant to even open it. And it has to be in front of a Postal Inspector.

  32. Rightiousness, liberty, freedom, truth, transparancy… what are you trying to hide…it all sounds very dangerous to me, but if there is evil it must be sought out, again not at the price of privacy,so many options, laws must be made for all, it's a new era!!!

  33. I kinda agree, but then I personally don’t want government in my internet. We seen how that played out on people once before. Go trump but stop acting to the dems.

  34. Imagine talking with your friends at the park and then a cop walks up to you and starts recording your conversation.

  35. Most mass shooters broadcast their plans on social media before rheir attacks. The privacy people want is their personal information being sold for the companies gains. If you want privacy. Call the person.

  36. Let us remember where Facebook came from. The C_A started this in colleges. It was always about collecting information of people. It is outlawed in China and Russia. Does that tell you something? Dumbasses

  37. Yeahhhh, no Barr just no. What I do in the privacy of my home is my business likewise same for what I talk to friends and family about on FB Messenger. Sure some of it is crude but that doesnt mean you get to read through it all smh

  38. 100% the first people to take advantage of these encrypted messages will be Crooks, rapist, child abusers, people using child pornography, human traffickers, terrorist, and anyone else wanting to hide illegal activity. This would be a huge national security problem, and endanger thousands if not millions of people on every continent !!! Every extremists and communist country will be the first to take advantage of Facebook having encrypted messages !

  39. Facebook and all of SOCIAL MEDIA communications are CORRUPT and US Law Enforcement should have access to all for the SAFETY of AMERICAN CITIZENS‼️

  40. A MUST WATCH–Dr. Robert Epstein: How Big Tech’s Algorithms Can Impact Opinions and Votes—and the 2020 Election

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